The Deadmines
Dungeon for level 17–26 (per Classic) · minimum level 16 per game data · Moonbrook, Westfall
Player shorthand: VC (also DM)
The Alliance classic beneath Moonbrook in Westfall, for levels 17–26. At the end, a ship waits in the cave.
The Deadmines: the Defias hideout
The Deadmines are the Alliance's big dungeon for the early levels. According to the fan addon they sit at levels 17 to 26, with bosses at 19 to 21. At the end a ship waits in an underground bay, Ironclad Cove. For WoW Forever: according to Blizzard the loot of the old dungeons has been reworked, dungeon enemies give around 20 % more experience, and dungeon quests give 50 % less bonus XP.
Approach
The dungeon lies beneath Moonbrook in the south of Westfall. In Moonbrook a hidden passage under a building leads down into the old mine. From there you walk through the tunnels to the portal. By our own conversion of the game data it sits at about 38 / 78 on the Westfall map. The nearest quest hub is Sentinel Hill.
Quests before and inside the dungeon
All dungeon quests in our data are Alliance quests. Pick them up in Westfall and Stormwind City before you set off.
- The Defias Brotherhood (Gryan Stoutmantle, Sentinel Hill): the end of a long quest chain through Westfall. Kill Edwin VanCleef and bring back his head. Choice: Chausses of Westfall, Tunic of Westfall or Staff of Westfall.
- Red Silk Bandanas (Scout Riell, tower on Sentinel Hill): collect 10 Red Silk Bandanas. Per the quest text, the high-ranking Defias in VanCleef's hideout wear them.
- The Search for Keepsakes and Oh Brother... (both from Wilder Thistlenettle in Stormwind City): the first wants 4 Miners' Union Cards. The second wants Thistlenettle's Badge from the foreman Thistlenettle (no English NPC name in our data; the German quest text calls him "Großknecht Thistlenettle").
- Underground Assault (Shoni the Shilent, Stormwind City): fetch the Gnoam Sprecklesprocket. Per the quest text it is the power source of the goblin shredder in the dungeon, i.e. Sneed's Shredder.
- Destruction in the Deadmines (Alba Fairmoon, Westfall): a new quest chain in Forever. It runs through Moonbrook Espionage, Explosive Consultation and An Explosive Plan (Sprite Jumpsprocket in Stormwind City, 54.6 / 8; the district name has no English name in our data). Inside the dungeon you place explosive charges at a hidden forge. At the exit you meet Alba again.
- The Unsent Letter: this quest starts with the item An Unsent Letter, which Edwin VanCleef carries. You take the letter to the City Architect Baros Alexston in Stormwind City.
- Paladins only: The Test of Righteousness (Jordan Stilwell, outside Ironforge): for Jordan's weapon you need, among other things, Whitestone Oak Lumber. Our quest data names Goblin Woodcarver in the Deadmines as the source. The weapon Verigan's Fist comes in the final step afterwards.
The bosses
Rhahk'Zor. The ogre is the first boss. Our data assigns no spell to him. As in Classic he hits hard but has no special abilities (not confirmed for Forever). The tank holds him, everyone else deals damage.
Sneed with Sneed's Shredder. First you fight the shredder. It casts Terrify: a single target flees in fear and may pull extra enemies along the way. Fight in a cleared area for that reason. Fear Ward (in Forever a baseline ability for all Priests from level 20) or the Shaman's Tremor Totem help. Afterwards Sneed jumps out and, per our tactics text, can Disarm. The shredder drops the part for "Underground Assault".
Miner Johnson. The client lists him as his own encounter. As in Classic he is said not to be present in every run and to weaken the tank's armor (not confirmed for Forever). The healer keeps an eye on the tank; otherwise the fight is calm.
Gilnid. The goblin stands in the smelting hall among many workers. Clear the hall before the fight so he does not come with a big group. Our data assigns no spell to him. As in Classic he counts as easy on his own.
Mr. Smite. He casts Smite Stomp, which stuns the group near him (group-wide effect as in Classic; the client only says "stunned"). Then comes Smite Slam, which deals damage and stuns one target briefly. As in Classic he runs to his chest after the stomp and switches weapons. Use the pause to heal. Clear the pirates near him beforehand.
Captain Greenskin. The captain hits his target and one neighbour with Cleave. His Poisoned Harpoon then deals Nature damage over time. The tank turns him away from the group. Pull his pirates one by one first.
Cookie. The cook heals himself with Cookie's Cooking. Interrupt it if your class can, or deal enough damage that the healing does not keep up. He can drop the camp blueprint Blueprint: Cookie's Feast.
Edwin VanCleef. The leader of the Defias calls helpers into the fight with VanCleef's Allies. Have one player take the helpers or kill them quickly so the tank is not overrun. Afterwards take his head for Gryan Stoutmantle. Do not forget the letter.
Notable loot by role
We do not have stats for the boss loot yet ("values to follow"). We therefore list only slot and type.
- Cloth: Corsair's Overshirt (chest) and Cape of the Brotherhood (back) from VanCleef. Gold-flecked Gloves from Sneed. Ogre Loincloth (legs) from Rhahk'Zor. Cookie's Stirring Rod (wand) from Cookie. Emberstone Staff (staff) from Greenskin.
- Leather: Blackened Defias Armor (chest) from VanCleef. Blackened Defias Belt from Greenskin. Smelting Pants from Gilnid. From regular enemies Blackened Defias Boots, Gloves and Leggings.
- Mail and shield: Bandsaw Wristbands from Sneed. Gold-plated Buckler from Miner Johnson.
- Weapons: Smite's Mighty Hammer, Thief's Blade and Smite's Reaver from Mr. Smite. Cruel Barb from VanCleef. Buzz Saw and Buzzer Blade from the shredder. Taskmaster Axe from Sneed. Rockslicer and Rhahk'Zor's Hammer from Rhahk'Zor. Impaling Harpoon from Greenskin. Cookie's Tenderizer from Cookie.
- Trinkets and rings: Lookie's Spyglass (Cookie). Lavishly Jeweled Ring (Gilnid). First Mate Band (Smite).
- Professions and camp: Blacksmithing plans (from 80), Leatherworking and Tailoring patterns (from 75 and 100). Plus three camp blueprints from skill 140: Blueprint: Anvil (Gilnid), Blueprint: Repair Bot (Sneed) and Blueprint: Cookie's Feast (Cookie).
Tips by role
Tank: turn Greenskin away from the group. At Sneed and the shredder fight in a cleared area. On the ship pull the pirates in small groups.
Healer: at Mr. Smite stand outside the stomp if you can. Poisoned Harpoon deals damage over time; a poison cure helps. At VanCleef keep mana for the phase with the helpers.
Damage: interrupt Cookie. At VanCleef switch to the helpers quickly. Watch your threat at Gilnid and on the ship so no extra group runs at you.
Group
The tried setup is one tank, one healer and three damage dealers. A Priest or a Shaman helps against the shredder's fear. In Forever the Alliance can also play Dwarf Shamans.
Bosses, Loot Table and Drops

Rhahk'ZorLevel 19
| Item | Slot | Comparison |
|---|---|---|
| RockslicerTwo-Hand, Axe | Two-Hand, Axe | Upgrade? |
| Rhahk'Zor's HammerTwo-Hand, Mace | Two-Hand, Mace | Upgrade? |
| Ogre LoinclothLegs, Cloth | Legs, Cloth | Upgrade? |
| Plans: Protector's GlovesPlans, Blacksmithing | Plans, Blacksmithing | |
| Plans: Crusader's GlovesPlans, Blacksmithing | Plans, Blacksmithing | |
| Pattern: Filigreed Flame GownPattern, Tailoring | Pattern, Tailoring |
No matching loot for this selection.
Sneed's ShredderLevel 20
Extra enemy part of the Sneed encounter
| Item | Slot | Comparison |
|---|---|---|
| Buzz SawOne-Hand, Sword | One-Hand, Sword | Upgrade? |
| Buzzer BladeMain Hand, Dagger | Main Hand, Dagger | Upgrade? |
| Dull SawbladeThrown | Thrown | Upgrade? |
No matching loot for this selection.

SneedLevel 20
| Item | Slot | Comparison |
|---|---|---|
| Taskmaster AxeTwo-Hand, Axe | Two-Hand, Axe | Upgrade? |
| Gold-flecked GlovesHands, Cloth | Hands, Cloth | Upgrade? |
| Bandsaw WristbandsWrist, Mail | Wrist, Mail | Upgrade? |
| Blueprint: Repair BotEngineering | Engineering | |
| Plans: Veteran's GlovesPlans, Blacksmithing | Plans, Blacksmithing | |
| Plans: Crusader's GlovesPlans, Blacksmithing | Plans, Blacksmithing | |
| Pattern: Filigreed Pristine GownPattern, Tailoring | Pattern, Tailoring |
No matching loot for this selection.
Miner JohnsonLevel 19
| Item | Slot | Comparison |
|---|---|---|
| Gold-plated BucklerOff Hand, Shield | Off Hand, Shield | Upgrade? |
| Miner's CapeBack, Cloth | Back, Cloth | Upgrade? |
No matching loot for this selection.

GilnidLevel 20
| Item | Slot | Comparison |
|---|---|---|
| Lavishly Jeweled RingFinger | Finger | Upgrade? |
| Smelting PantsLegs, Leather | Legs, Leather | Upgrade? |
| Goblin HammerMain Hand, Mace | Main Hand, Mace | Upgrade? |
| Pattern: Brawler's Leather GlovesPattern, Leatherworking | Pattern, Leatherworking | |
| Pattern: Trapper's Leather GlovesPattern, Leatherworking | Pattern, Leatherworking | |
| Pattern: Totemic Leather GlovesPattern, Leatherworking | Pattern, Leatherworking | |
| Pattern: Wisdom's Leather GlovesPattern, Leatherworking | Pattern, Leatherworking | |
| Pattern: Filigreed Silky GownPattern, Tailoring | Pattern, Tailoring | |
| Pattern: Filigreed Flame GownPattern, Tailoring | Pattern, Tailoring | |
| Blueprint: AnvilSchematic | Schematic |
No matching loot for this selection.

Captain GreenskinLevel 20
| Item | Slot | Comparison |
|---|---|---|
| Emberstone StaffTwo-Hand, Staff | Two-Hand, Staff | Upgrade? |
| Blackened Defias BeltWaist, Leather | Waist, Leather | Upgrade? |
| Impaling HarpoonTwo-Hand, Polearm | Two-Hand, Polearm | Upgrade? |
No matching loot for this selection.

Mr. SmiteLevel 20
| Item | Slot | Comparison |
|---|---|---|
| Smite's Mighty HammerTwo-Hand, Mace | Two-Hand, Mace | Upgrade? |
| Thief's BladeOne-Hand, Sword | One-Hand, Sword | Upgrade? |
| Smite's ReaverOne-Hand, Axe | One-Hand, Axe | Upgrade? |
| First Mate BandFinger | Finger | Upgrade? |
| Plans: Protector's GlovesPlans, Blacksmithing | Plans, Blacksmithing | |
| Pattern: Defender's Leather GlovesPattern, Leatherworking | Pattern, Leatherworking | |
| Pattern: Totemic Leather GlovesPattern, Leatherworking | Pattern, Leatherworking | |
| Pattern: Stormrider's Leather GlovesPattern, Leatherworking | Pattern, Leatherworking | |
| Pattern: Wisdom's Leather GlovesPattern, Leatherworking | Pattern, Leatherworking |
No matching loot for this selection.

CookieLevel 20
| Item | Slot | Comparison |
|---|---|---|
| Cookie's Stirring RodRanged, Wand | Ranged, Wand | Upgrade? |
| Cookie's TenderizerOne-Hand, Mace | One-Hand, Mace | Upgrade? |
| Lookie's SpyglassTrinket | Trinket | Upgrade? |
| Plans: Veteran's GlovesPlans, Blacksmithing | Plans, Blacksmithing | |
| Pattern: Trapper's Leather GlovesPattern, Leatherworking | Pattern, Leatherworking | |
| Pattern: Defender's Leather GlovesPattern, Leatherworking | Pattern, Leatherworking | |
| Pattern: Filigreed Pearly GownPattern, Tailoring | Pattern, Tailoring | |
| Pattern: Filigreed Shining GownPattern, Tailoring | Pattern, Tailoring | |
| Blueprint: Cookie's FeastSchematic | Schematic |
No matching loot for this selection.

Edwin VanCleefLevel 21
| Item | Slot | Comparison |
|---|---|---|
| Cape of the BrotherhoodBack, Cloth | Back, Cloth | Upgrade? |
| Corsair's OvershirtChest, Cloth | Chest, Cloth | Upgrade? |
| Blackened Defias ArmorChest, Leather | Chest, Leather | Upgrade? |
| Cruel BarbOne-Hand, Sword | One-Hand, Sword | Upgrade? |
| An Unsent LetterQuest Item | Quest Item | |
| Pattern: Trapper's Leather HoodPattern, Leatherworking | Pattern, Leatherworking | |
| Pattern: Defender's Leather HoodPattern, Leatherworking | Pattern, Leatherworking | |
| Pattern: Totemic Leather HoodPattern, Leatherworking | Pattern, Leatherworking | |
| Pattern: Wisdom's Leather HoodPattern, Leatherworking | Pattern, Leatherworking | |
| Pattern: Filigreed Pristine LeggingsPattern, Tailoring | Pattern, Tailoring | |
| Pattern: Filigreed Shining LeggingsPattern, Tailoring | Pattern, Tailoring |
No matching loot for this selection.
Trash drops
| Item | Slot | Comparison |
|---|---|---|
| Blackened Defias BootsFeet, Leather | Feet, Leather | Upgrade? |
| Blackened Defias GlovesHands, Leather | Hands, Leather | Upgrade? |
| Blackened Defias LeggingsLegs, Leather | Legs, Leather | Upgrade? |
| Blackwater CutlassOne-Hand, Sword | One-Hand, Sword | Upgrade? |
| Silk-threaded TrousersLegs, Cloth | Legs, Cloth | Upgrade? |
| Stonemason TrousersLegs, Leather | Legs, Leather | Upgrade? |
| Goblin ScrewdriverOne-Hand, Dagger | One-Hand, Dagger | Upgrade? |
No matching loot for this selection.
Dungeon quests
| Level | Quest and quest giver | Faction | Requires |
|---|---|---|---|
| 17 | Red Silk Bandanas Scout Riell, Westfall 56.7, 47.3 | Alliance | Level 14 |
| 18 | The Search for Keepsakes Wilder Thistlenettle, Stormwind City 70.3, 40.8 | Alliance | Level 14 |
| 18 | Destruction in the Deadmines Alba Fairmoon, Westfall 52.4, 53 | Alliance | Level 9 |
| 20 | Underground Assault Shoni the Shilent, Stormwind City 62.6, 34.1 | Alliance | Level 15 |
| 20 | Oh Brother... Wilder Thistlenettle, Stormwind City 70.3, 40.8 | Alliance | Level 15 |
| 22 | The Unsent Letter Item: An Unsent Letter | Alliance | Level 16 |
| 22 | The Defias Brotherhood Gryan Stoutmantle, Westfall 56.3, 47.5 | Alliance | Level 14 |
| 22 | The Test of Righteousness Jordan Stilwell, Dun Morogh 52.5, 36.9 | Alliance | Level 20 |
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FAQ
Where is The Deadmines (VC)?
The Deadmines is located in Moonbrook, Westfall.
What quests are there for The Deadmines?
We know of 8 quests for The Deadmines: 0 for the Horde and 8 for the Alliance (quests available to both factions count for both).
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