Rogue Gold Guide for WoW Forever: Pick Pocket, Boxes and Poisons

In short

• Rob every suitable enemy before you attack. Pick Pocket takes only seconds and gives coins, vendor trash and junkboxes.
• You open junkboxes yourself with Lockpicking. The gold is in the contents, not the box itself.
• Other players bring you their lockboxes. That gives you skill and often a tip.
• Poisons cost gold instead of making it: the vendor pays less for the finished poison than the ingredients cost.
• Gathering professions fit best: Herbalism, Mining, Skinning.

Pick Pocket as a gold source

From level 4 you can rob humanoid enemies while in Stealth. The theft rolls on its own loot table, and you still get the normal loot when you kill them. The higher the enemy, the better the junkbox:

Box	Lock	Enemies
Battered Junkbox	1	from about level 20
Worn Junkbox	70	from about level 30
Sturdy Junkbox	175	from about level 40
Heavy Junkbox	250	from about level 50

Enemies column: rough guide based on the box's item level. Lock column: required skill as in WoW Classic. According to the game data, junkboxes have no vendor price. unconfirmed

• Camps with lots of humanoids close together pay best: bandits, pirates, cultists. Enemies at your level carry the matching boxes.
• Grey vendor trash from pockets goes straight to the vendor. Whatever is in the boxes you sell to a vendor or on the Auction House, depending on its value.
• Mechanics and the best enemies in detail: Pick Pocket guide.

What our addon data shows

• There aren't enough contributions yet. As soon as at least 20 events have been reported, you'll see here how many coins a pickpocket and a junkbox give on average.

The figures come from contributions made with our addons, kept separate for pickpocketing and box contents. Join in: Contribute data.

Lockpicking for other players

Lockboxes drop as loot from enemies. Other classes can't open them without help, and that's where you come in. These lockboxes are in the game data:

Lockbox	Skill	Item level	Vendor price
Ornate Bronze Lockbox	1	20	50
Heavy Bronze Lockbox	25	25	70
Iron Lockbox	70	30	87
Strong Iron Lockbox	125	35	110
Steel Lockbox	175	40	150
Reinforced Steel Lockbox	225	45	2
Mithril Lockbox	225	50	250
Thorium Lockbox	225	55	375
Eternium Lockbox	225	60	5

Vendor price: what the vendor pays for the locked box according to the game data. Skill: required Lockpicking as in WoW Classic.

• Offer your services in the trade channel or your guild. Anyone with a lockbox would rather have you open it than sell it for a few copper.
• It's done through the trade window: the other player puts the lockbox in the bottom slot (will not be traded), you pick it there, and they get it back opened.
• In WoW Classic a small tip was customary. How much is up to the lockbox owner.
• Each lockbox also gives you Lockpicking points as long as its lock isn't too easy for you.

Poison reagents vs. vendor prices

Is it worth making and selling poisons? The table compares the ingredients at vendor price with what the vendor pays for the finished poison. You lose gold on 21 of 21 poisons.

Poison	Level	Ingredients	Vendor price
Crippling Poison	20	54	13
Instant Poison	20	24	5
Mind-numbing Poison	24	74	18
Instant Poison II	28	1	20
Deadly Poison	30	140	30
Wound Poison	32	190	42
Blinding Powder	34	5	375
Instant Poison III	36	140	30
Deadly Poison II	38	240	55
Mind-numbing Poison II	38	320	75
Wound Poison II	40	290	67
Instant Poison IV	44	7	75
Deadly Poison III	46	8	1
Wound Poison III	48	9	125
Crippling Poison II	50	11	175
Instant Poison V	52	8	1
Mind-numbing Poison III	52	11	175
Deadly Poison IV	54	10	150
Wound Poison IV	56	11	175
Instant Poison VI	60	9	125
Deadly Poison V	60	12	150

Ingredients: vendor price of all reagents and the vial for one craft, without reputation discount. Vendor price: what the vendor pays for the result. All prices come from the beta game data (client version 1.60.1).

• Poisons are an expense, not income. Only make what you need yourself, and buy ingredients for several crafts at once.
• Deathweed and Fadeleaf are herbs. If you find them while gathering you save buying them; sell any extras on the Auction House.
• All poisons with rank, training level and reagents: Rogue poisons.

Lockpicks and practice lock

Blacksmiths make lockpicks and engineers make the practice lock. For you as a Rogue they're both competition and practice material. Here's how materials and results compare at the vendor:

Material: vendor price of the materials for one craft. Vendor price: what the vendor pays for all items made (× quantity). The number after the profession is the skill at which the recipe can be learned.

• Anyone who buys a lockpick doesn't need you. With high skill you're still the cheaper option, because you don't use up any materials.
• For you, the practice lock is mainly a way to your first Lockpicking points. It's no good for selling to a vendor.

Combining with gathering professions

• Based on experience from WoW Classic, two gathering professions make the most gold while levelling. Choose from Herbalism, Mining, Skinning, and sell what you gather on the Auction House.
• Herbalism also gives you herbs for your poisons and for Blind.
• Based on experience from WoW Classic: in Stealth you can slip past enemies to herbs and ore that others have to fight their way to. Gathering itself makes you visible.
• Skinning is a weaker fit because beasts have no pockets. If you hunt a lot of beasts, it still pays well.
• All ways to make gold at a glance: Making Gold in WoW Forever. Zones and trade goods by level: Making Gold by Level.

Ravenholdt: the junkbox quest

In Ravenholdt (Alterac Mountains), Fahrad trades Dusksteel Throwing Knife for 5 × Heavy Junkbox.

• Quest: Junkboxes Needed, from level 50.
• Reputation: +50 with Ravenholdt, -250 with Syndicate.
• You get Heavy Junkbox with Pick Pocket from high-level enemies; opening it requires Lockpicking 250.
• The quest doesn't give gold directly. You trade boxes for throwing knives and reputation; if you'd rather open the boxes, you keep the contents.

Objectives and reward come from our quest data (WoW Classic); whether the quest stays the same in WoW Forever is not yet confirmed. unconfirmed

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